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		<title>By: cyleleghorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyleleghorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, 1. the 10% of our brain that we do use for thinking is spread throughout the entire brain, although we use more like 20%. it isn&#039;t just shoved into one corner.  2. We only consciously use 20 percent. the other 80 is busy doing other things like making out heart beat and getting us to breath and storing instincts. 3. Who ever said part of our brains switched off?? if they did, we would probably die in our sleep, or suffer brain damage if we slept for more than 3 hours. and 4. All of our brain is being used, just not for mental conscious thought. if we could figure out how to use more of our brain, like say, 75 percent, the possibilities are endless. we need a partition editor for our brains. we need to decrease the size of our brain used for instincts and organ control, because seriously, it doesn&#039;t take that much power, and expand the amount that we can use for mental calculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, 1. the 10% of our brain that we do use for thinking is spread throughout the entire brain, although we use more like 20%. it isn't just shoved into one corner.  2. We only consciously use 20 percent. the other 80 is busy doing other things like making out heart beat and getting us to breath and storing instincts. 3. Who ever said part of our brains switched off?? if they did, we would probably die in our sleep, or suffer brain damage if we slept for more than 3 hours. and 4. All of our brain is being used, just not for mental conscious thought. if we could figure out how to use more of our brain, like say, 75 percent, the possibilities are endless. we need a partition editor for our brains. we need to decrease the size of our brain used for instincts and organ control, because seriously, it doesn't take that much power, and expand the amount that we can use for mental calculation.</p>
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		<title>By: Bronson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bronson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too many people here are rationalising the myth by stating that only 10% of our brain is used for conscious mental activities. I see no reason why this might be the case however.

It is plausible that we only consciously use 10% of our brain but I don&#039;t know how this could be estimated since we still don&#039;t know what constitutes conscious mental acitivty. Scientists and philosiphers are still arguing over what is conscious and what is unconscious (if it exists), and how these states relate to the brain (not to mention whether there are there different types of consciousness e.g., phenomenal &amp; access). For example, is it right that only what we can talk about is conscious (a position put forward by Sperry)? If that is the case only Broca&#039;s area and Wernike&#039;s area are conscious the rest is unconscious. But then that leaves out vision, the experience of pain etc as conscious experiences doesn&#039;t it. Moreover, it rules out the right hemisphere which is &#039;mute&#039;. A person with a left hemisphere removed does not become an unconscious zombie, they just can&#039;t talk, and they still experimence the world consciously through their intact right hemisphere. But this is exactly the debate currently going on in cognitive science between Koch, Lamme and Deheane (among others).

So even if we had a perfect understanding of how mental states related to the brain, we still couldn&#039;t give an estimate regarding which parts (or activities) relate to conscious and unconscious effects because we still don&#039;t know which mental activities are conscious, unconscious, preconscious, access consciousness, phenomenal consciousness etc.

Lets use a concrete example. Deheane&#039;s global workspace model of consciousness argues that there are a population of neurons spread throughout the brain which are responsable for conscious mental activity. According to his theory only these neurons would constitute conscious bits of the brain, all we have to do is locate them, and then we would have our estimate. Conversely, Lamme argues that conscious mental activity arises from feedback connections from &#039;higher&#039; to &#039;lower&#039; parts of cortical processing. Because these types of neural connections are everywhere in the brain this means that 100% of the cortex (and probably most of the whole brain) is used consciously.

So make whatever story you want up out of the theories I just described but what I&#039;m getting at is that there is no consensus regarding what exactly constitutes conscious neural activity. Without this consensus, using an single figure to denonte how much of the brain is used consciously is nonsense because different theories would predict different numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many people here are rationalising the myth by stating that only 10% of our brain is used for conscious mental activities. I see no reason why this might be the case however.</p>
<p>It is plausible that we only consciously use 10% of our brain but I don't know how this could be estimated since we still don't know what constitutes conscious mental acitivty. Scientists and philosiphers are still arguing over what is conscious and what is unconscious (if it exists), and how these states relate to the brain (not to mention whether there are there different types of consciousness e.g., phenomenal &amp; access). For example, is it right that only what we can talk about is conscious (a position put forward by Sperry)? If that is the case only Broca's area and Wernike's area are conscious the rest is unconscious. But then that leaves out vision, the experience of pain etc as conscious experiences doesn't it. Moreover, it rules out the right hemisphere which is 'mute'. A person with a left hemisphere removed does not become an unconscious zombie, they just can't talk, and they still experimence the world consciously through their intact right hemisphere. But this is exactly the debate currently going on in cognitive science between Koch, Lamme and Deheane (among others).</p>
<p>So even if we had a perfect understanding of how mental states related to the brain, we still couldn't give an estimate regarding which parts (or activities) relate to conscious and unconscious effects because we still don't know which mental activities are conscious, unconscious, preconscious, access consciousness, phenomenal consciousness etc.</p>
<p>Lets use a concrete example. Deheane's global workspace model of consciousness argues that there are a population of neurons spread throughout the brain which are responsable for conscious mental activity. According to his theory only these neurons would constitute conscious bits of the brain, all we have to do is locate them, and then we would have our estimate. Conversely, Lamme argues that conscious mental activity arises from feedback connections from 'higher' to 'lower' parts of cortical processing. Because these types of neural connections are everywhere in the brain this means that 100% of the cortex (and probably most of the whole brain) is used consciously.</p>
<p>So make whatever story you want up out of the theories I just described but what I'm getting at is that there is no consensus regarding what exactly constitutes conscious neural activity. Without this consensus, using an single figure to denonte how much of the brain is used consciously is nonsense because different theories would predict different numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Serena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This myth is true, yet untrue. This &quot;unused&quot; 90% of our brains is used, but in an involuntary way, such as storing inactive long term memories, contolling temperature, and even determining personality. Therefore, the brain is efficient, yet we cannot enhance brain activity with the self-controlling parts of our brains, nor can we use these to take over for injured or diseased tissue. Also, if zapped, these parts of the brain have unnoticble effects on the body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This myth is true, yet untrue. This "unused" 90% of our brains is used, but in an involuntary way, such as storing inactive long term memories, contolling temperature, and even determining personality. Therefore, the brain is efficient, yet we cannot enhance brain activity with the self-controlling parts of our brains, nor can we use these to take over for injured or diseased tissue. Also, if zapped, these parts of the brain have unnoticble effects on the body.</p>
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		<title>By: tinalovespanic</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay so my friends and i came up with this theory.&lt;br /&gt;Apparently when you are a baby it is claimed that you know everything or at least a lot,&lt;br /&gt;so if that happened maybe that other 90% was used as a baby but eventually we became to forget things or know less. As we got older the precentage of our brains used decreased and now we use 10% at this stage in our lives. And it is in a stable condition of 10% usage until we receive trauma, injury, or becoming ill and eventually die. Could This Really Be Possible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay so my friends and i came up with this theory.<br />Apparently when you are a baby it is claimed that you know everything or at least a lot,<br />so if that happened maybe that other 90% was used as a baby but eventually we became to forget things or know less. As we got older the precentage of our brains used decreased and now we use 10% at this stage in our lives. And it is in a stable condition of 10% usage until we receive trauma, injury, or becoming ill and eventually die. Could This Really Be Possible?</p>
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		<title>By: jenny(psychgirl)</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenny(psychgirl)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi,&lt;br /&gt;i agree with those who said that it is just a myth....i dont really think so that there&#039;s a scientific basis with this.&lt;br /&gt;the important is how could we prove that only 10% of our brain are we only used?&lt;br /&gt;in my own opinion,i think its depend upon the situation how you understand the question.&lt;br /&gt;example we could say that it is true because some people believe that,while the other parts of our brain is active,the other parts are inactive.because if it works 100% at the same time,maybe we could be get mad.are they saying that when we sleep,some parts of our brain doesnt work?is that what they mean?&lt;br /&gt;well,for me i believe that all the time our brain 100% working.our brain consist of diff.structure with diff.functions...&lt;br /&gt;lets say,when we are planning,reasoning,thinking,or percieving,it means our cerebral cortex is functions.pons,when we are sleeping or arousal.medulla oblongata,regulates our heartbeat,breathing,and blood pressure.all of that parts of our brain,are,we really needed in everyday of our lives.&lt;br /&gt;even the lobes of our brain has a quite diff.functions.&lt;br /&gt;so,how could you say that only 10% of our brain is just working?did you already know the diff. parts and functions of our brain?&lt;br /&gt;i really beleive that,if one 1% percent of our brain doesnt work,then we could say that there is something wrong inside of it.&lt;br /&gt;how much more if 10% doesnt work?i think im gonna loose my sight...=)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi,<br />i agree with those who said that it is just a myth....i dont really think so that there's a scientific basis with this.<br />the important is how could we prove that only 10% of our brain are we only used?<br />in my own opinion,i think its depend upon the situation how you understand the question.<br />example we could say that it is true because some people believe that,while the other parts of our brain is active,the other parts are inactive.because if it works 100% at the same time,maybe we could be get mad.are they saying that when we sleep,some parts of our brain doesnt work?is that what they mean?<br />well,for me i believe that all the time our brain 100% working.our brain consist of diff.structure with diff.functions...<br />lets say,when we are planning,reasoning,thinking,or percieving,it means our cerebral cortex is functions.pons,when we are sleeping or arousal.medulla oblongata,regulates our heartbeat,breathing,and blood pressure.all of that parts of our brain,are,we really needed in everyday of our lives.<br />even the lobes of our brain has a quite diff.functions.<br />so,how could you say that only 10% of our brain is just working?did you already know the diff. parts and functions of our brain?<br />i really beleive that,if one 1% percent of our brain doesnt work,then we could say that there is something wrong inside of it.<br />how much more if 10% doesnt work?i think im gonna loose my sight...=)</p>
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		<title>By: Kalli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kalli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect the original copywriter - or even the original &quot;press releases&quot;  about any such findings - confused &#039;brain&#039; with MIND.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have no doubt that, as far as it is observable, most people seem to use a minute portion of their mind.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The equation &quot;mind = brain&quot; is the real myth. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the fact that it still persists to this day is a real tragedy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect the original copywriter - or even the original "press releases"  about any such findings - confused 'brain' with MIND.</p>
<p>I have no doubt that, as far as it is observable, most people seem to use a minute portion of their mind.</p>
<p>The equation "mind = brain" is the real myth. </p>
<p>And the fact that it still persists to this day is a real tragedy...</p>
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		<title>By: chrislehrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrislehrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 01:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It strikes me that a great deal of the motivation behind this myth is not so much that people believe there is, as one commenter put it, &quot;some study out there that shows&quot; it to be true; rather, many people want to believe that Science (here treated as a monolithic entity) doesn&#039;t understand something and doesn&#039;t want you to know it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To expand, then, the myth in one of its classic formulations (e.g. Pauwels &amp; Bergier, &lt;i&gt;Le matin des magiciens&lt;/i&gt; [The Morning of the Magicians]) goes something like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) The best neurological information we have today is utterly unable to account for the workings of 90% of the brain. [sort of true, if we&#039;re talking about the 1940s or so, if we define things loosely]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) This means that 90% of the brain&#039;s power and potential is beyond the knowledge of science. [rather less true, but still sort of arguable mid-century]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) This is not because science doesn&#039;t &lt;b&gt;know&lt;/b&gt; but because science, in its current state, is &lt;b&gt;incapable of knowing&lt;/b&gt; these things. [actually quite true, if we take the &quot;current state of science&quot; to mean the technical state of neuroscience mid-century]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4) This is because science refuses to acknowledge that which is beyond its current ken. [exceedingly problematic as a generalization]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5) In fact, science doesn&#039;t want you to know about this higher potential. [moving into the insane as a generalization: science is not a continuous entity with a will]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6) This is why science also ridicules things like telepathy, telekinesis, and so on, all of which are demonstrably real. [no, they&#039;re not]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7) In fact, these things are done with parts of that special, hidden 90% of the brain, and some people have evolved just a hair beyond the rest of us and can make active use of this portion of the brain. [does not at all accord with the previous, much more limited claims about the 90%]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So it all rests on a crucial bit of fallacious logic:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A) Neuroscientists at X time have an imperfect, incomplete knowledge of the total function and capacity of the brain. [true]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;B) That part of the total function which neuroscientists do not fully understand must do something whose very function is outside the normal realm of accepted science. [false inference]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It strikes me that a great deal of the motivation behind this myth is not so much that people believe there is, as one commenter put it, "some study out there that shows" it to be true; rather, many people want to believe that Science (here treated as a monolithic entity) doesn't understand something and doesn't want you to know it.</p>
<p>To expand, then, the myth in one of its classic formulations (e.g. Pauwels &amp; Bergier, <i>Le matin des magiciens</i> [The Morning of the Magicians]) goes something like this:</p>
<p>1) The best neurological information we have today is utterly unable to account for the workings of 90% of the brain. [sort of true, if we're talking about the 1940s or so, if we define things loosely]</p>
<p>2) This means that 90% of the brain's power and potential is beyond the knowledge of science. [rather less true, but still sort of arguable mid-century]</p>
<p>3) This is not because science doesn't <b>know</b> but because science, in its current state, is <b>incapable of knowing</b> these things. [actually quite true, if we take the "current state of science" to mean the technical state of neuroscience mid-century]</p>
<p>4) This is because science refuses to acknowledge that which is beyond its current ken. [exceedingly problematic as a generalization]</p>
<p>5) In fact, science doesn't want you to know about this higher potential. [moving into the insane as a generalization: science is not a continuous entity with a will]</p>
<p>6) This is why science also ridicules things like telepathy, telekinesis, and so on, all of which are demonstrably real. [no, they're not]</p>
<p>7) In fact, these things are done with parts of that special, hidden 90% of the brain, and some people have evolved just a hair beyond the rest of us and can make active use of this portion of the brain. [does not at all accord with the previous, much more limited claims about the 90%]</p>
<p>So it all rests on a crucial bit of fallacious logic:</p>
<p>A) Neuroscientists at X time have an imperfect, incomplete knowledge of the total function and capacity of the brain. [true]</p>
<p>B) That part of the total function which neuroscientists do not fully understand must do something whose very function is outside the normal realm of accepted science. [false inference]</p>
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		<title>By: rufsketch1</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps the myth comes from a misinterpretation of us being conscious of the processes of only a small part of our brain?  (we have no clue how exactly we seem to know that one apple is less than two apples, or how all together they make 3 apples).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps the myth comes from a misinterpretation of us being conscious of the processes of only a small part of our brain?  (we have no clue how exactly we seem to know that one apple is less than two apples, or how all together they make 3 apples).</p>
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		<title>By: garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 15:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also, all you need to do to debunk the 10% myth is to say &quot;neurologists and cognitive scientists agree that there is no evidence that we use only 10% of our brain, in any sense&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;i think that most people who hear the myth think there is some scientific study out there that supports it.  there isn&#039;t.  basta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also, all you need to do to debunk the 10% myth is to say "neurologists and cognitive scientists agree that there is no evidence that we use only 10% of our brain, in any sense"</p>
<p>i think that most people who hear the myth think there is some scientific study out there that supports it.  there isn't.  basta.</p>
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		<title>By: garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 15:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m not sure why nobody has mentioned glia yet, but they seem to be the most likely source of the 10% myth.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From Wikipedia:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;The human brain contains about ten times more glial cells than neurons.[1] Following its discovery in the late 19th century, this fact underwent significant media distortion, emerging as the famous myth claiming that &quot;we are using only 10% of our brain&quot;. The role of glial cells as managers of communications in the synapse gap, thus modifying learning pace, has been discovered only very recently (2004).&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This would be a very clear motivation for the myth, and the misinterpretation is also clear--people got the idea that the glia were somehow inert and unimportant, whereas the neurons were being actively used for thinking.  now it is recognized that glia cells also perform vital functions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;it&#039;s kind of like claiming that we only use a certain percentage of our body for sports, nowhere near our full potential, because we waste space with such things as blood vessels and organs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i'm not sure why nobody has mentioned glia yet, but they seem to be the most likely source of the 10% myth.  </p>
<p>From Wikipedia:</p>
<p>"The human brain contains about ten times more glial cells than neurons.[1] Following its discovery in the late 19th century, this fact underwent significant media distortion, emerging as the famous myth claiming that "we are using only 10% of our brain". The role of glial cells as managers of communications in the synapse gap, thus modifying learning pace, has been discovered only very recently (2004)."</p>
<p>This would be a very clear motivation for the myth, and the misinterpretation is also clear--people got the idea that the glia were somehow inert and unimportant, whereas the neurons were being actively used for thinking.  now it is recognized that glia cells also perform vital functions.</p>
<p>it's kind of like claiming that we only use a certain percentage of our body for sports, nowhere near our full potential, because we waste space with such things as blood vessels and organs...</p>
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