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		<title>By: Self Help Queen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Self Help Queen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read self help books because I enjoy reading them. I don&#039;t think they are going to change my life any more than a box of chocolates is going to change my life. But they are interesting and enjoyable to me all the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read self help books because I enjoy reading them. I don't think they are going to change my life any more than a box of chocolates is going to change my life. But they are interesting and enjoyable to me all the same.</p>
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		<title>By: contentgrrl</title>
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		<dc:creator>contentgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After Trent of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thesimpledollar.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TheSimpleDollar.com &lt;/a&gt;lauded Carnegie&#039;s HTWFIP, I was curious who thought that it might be outdated. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This blog post has some very intriguing arguments to think about while reading Carnegie, or any self-help book for that matter. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But there is a distinct difference between reading about a thing and actually practicing it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;IMHO most people skim with skepticism or try to absorb a feel-good attitude but don&#039;t do the work every day. It&#039;s a daunting commitment to actually help yourself, when the insanity of doing the same things over and over is so much easier.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://contentgrrl.wordpress.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;contentgrrl&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After Trent of <a href="http://www.thesimpledollar.com" rel="nofollow">TheSimpleDollar.com </a>lauded Carnegie's HTWFIP, I was curious who thought that it might be outdated. </p>
<p>This blog post has some very intriguing arguments to think about while reading Carnegie, or any self-help book for that matter. </p>
<p>But there is a distinct difference between reading about a thing and actually practicing it. </p>
<p>IMHO most people skim with skepticism or try to absorb a feel-good attitude but don't do the work every day. It's a daunting commitment to actually help yourself, when the insanity of doing the same things over and over is so much easier.</p>
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		<title>By: meraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>meraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear friends.Rubbishing or praising all self help books is like saying all people are bad or everyone is good.&lt;br /&gt;We should use our discretion,experts opinions and of course our simple but often elusive common sense.Thereis no doubt that the market is filled with &quot;fillers&quot; or &quot;also rans&quot; but you have to dig out for real gold.Its rare as they say.You must have an eye for that, but once again its catch 22 position.&lt;br /&gt;Regards. Meraj. Allahabad. India</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear friends.Rubbishing or praising all self help books is like saying all people are bad or everyone is good.<br />We should use our discretion,experts opinions and of course our simple but often elusive common sense.Thereis no doubt that the market is filled with "fillers" or "also rans" but you have to dig out for real gold.Its rare as they say.You must have an eye for that, but once again its catch 22 position.<br />Regards. Meraj. Allahabad. India</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</title>
		<link>http://www.spring.org.uk/2008/01/is-modern-self-help-just-massive-money.php/comment-page-1#comment-21116</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi DocJohn, if you could pass on the best couple of references you found for self-affirmation, positive thinking and happiness, I&#039;d really appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi DocJohn, if you could pass on the best couple of references you found for self-affirmation, positive thinking and happiness, I'd really appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: DocJohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>DocJohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, I saw the references and then I went to the literature myself and saw many, many more references that paint a more complex picture. Anybody can write pretty much any article and find a reference to support their point of view. For instance, I can in women, suppression of thoughts *does* work, because there&#039;s a research study that shows it does (which is the exact opposite point made). So while she captures *a* point of view in a moment of time (back in 2001 when she wrote that article), repeating the same simplistic conclusions 7 years late probably isn&#039;t what I&#039;ve come to expect from your entries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And of course, we both know &quot;well being&quot; may capture a component of &quot;personal growth,&quot; but certainly is not the whole picture (or perhaps even the best part of the picture).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keep up the great writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, I saw the references and then I went to the literature myself and saw many, many more references that paint a more complex picture. Anybody can write pretty much any article and find a reference to support their point of view. For instance, I can in women, suppression of thoughts *does* work, because there's a research study that shows it does (which is the exact opposite point made). So while she captures *a* point of view in a moment of time (back in 2001 when she wrote that article), repeating the same simplistic conclusions 7 years late probably isn't what I've come to expect from your entries.</p>
<p>And of course, we both know "well being" may capture a component of "personal growth," but certainly is not the whole picture (or perhaps even the best part of the picture).</p>
<p>Keep up the great writing!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi DocJohn, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for your comment. First about the your personal growth question, I think the author is suggesting people would be given books categorised as personal growth and then their well-being could be measured before and after reading them. Same method as for the problem-oriented books.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, about your criticisms of the Paul (2001) article - I&#039;d agree this is not a very nuanced description, but the basic points (mostly) hold true. The author of the Psychology Today article does rely on solid academic references. For example on &#039;think happy thoughts&#039;, she has consulted &lt;a href=&quot;http://wegner.socialpsychology.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dan Wegner&lt;/a&gt;, and on self-affirmation &lt;a href=&quot;http://homepage.psy.utexas.edu/homepage/faculty/Swann/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;William Swan&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can read the article &lt;a href=&quot;http://psychologytoday.com/articles/index.php?term=20010301-000044&amp;page=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi DocJohn, </p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. First about the your personal growth question, I think the author is suggesting people would be given books categorised as personal growth and then their well-being could be measured before and after reading them. Same method as for the problem-oriented books.</p>
<p>Second, about your criticisms of the Paul (2001) article - I'd agree this is not a very nuanced description, but the basic points (mostly) hold true. The author of the Psychology Today article does rely on solid academic references. For example on 'think happy thoughts', she has consulted <a href="http://wegner.socialpsychology.org/" rel="nofollow">Dan Wegner</a>, and on self-affirmation <a href="http://homepage.psy.utexas.edu/homepage/faculty/Swann/" rel="nofollow">William Swan</a>.  </p>
<p>You can read the article <a href="http://psychologytoday.com/articles/index.php?term=20010301-000044&amp;page=2" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: DocJohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>DocJohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you empirically measure &quot;personal growth?&quot; Given that it&#039;s going to be very different for different people, it&#039;s not surprising there is less empirical support for these kinds of books. But honestly, would there be a market for them if people didn&#039;t take something positive away from them? They remain popular for a reason -- because they provide something to the people who read them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &quot;think happy thoughts&quot; summary is a really simplistic interpretation of the research in this area. The research actually shows that trying to suppress negative thoughts (mostly in undergraduate students -- very little in way of real-world research in this area) can lead to a more depressed mood. That&#039;s very different than saying &quot;happy thoughts don&#039;t work.&quot; Optimistic thinking and answering cognitive distortions are two self-help techniques that have a lot of empirical support for helping with a depressed mood. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Self-affirmation research also has produced more complex results than &quot;self-affirmation doesn&#039;t work&quot; or &quot;self-affirmation has no effect on mood.&quot; That&#039;s simply not a very nuanced reading of the literature, which suggests there are positive effects of self-affirmation. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Furthermore, these suggestions about what &quot;self-help books get wrong&quot; comes from, ironically, a self-help magazine (Psychology Today) article, written not by a psychology researcher, but by a health journalist for a lay-person audience. I believe the article greatly simplified the research in these (and other) areas in order to make simple, strong points that made for a good article (but not necessarily a wholly accurate one).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you empirically measure "personal growth?" Given that it's going to be very different for different people, it's not surprising there is less empirical support for these kinds of books. But honestly, would there be a market for them if people didn't take something positive away from them? They remain popular for a reason -- because they provide something to the people who read them.</p>
<p>The "think happy thoughts" summary is a really simplistic interpretation of the research in this area. The research actually shows that trying to suppress negative thoughts (mostly in undergraduate students -- very little in way of real-world research in this area) can lead to a more depressed mood. That's very different than saying "happy thoughts don't work." Optimistic thinking and answering cognitive distortions are two self-help techniques that have a lot of empirical support for helping with a depressed mood. </p>
<p>Self-affirmation research also has produced more complex results than "self-affirmation doesn't work" or "self-affirmation has no effect on mood." That's simply not a very nuanced reading of the literature, which suggests there are positive effects of self-affirmation. </p>
<p>Furthermore, these suggestions about what "self-help books get wrong" comes from, ironically, a self-help magazine (Psychology Today) article, written not by a psychology researcher, but by a health journalist for a lay-person audience. I believe the article greatly simplified the research in these (and other) areas in order to make simple, strong points that made for a good article (but not necessarily a wholly accurate one).</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Online and Jessica.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kyle, yes, I&#039;d definitely agree that there&#039;s considerable variation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Online and Jessica.</p>
<p>Kyle, yes, I'd definitely agree that there's considerable variation.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have mixed feelings about this topic. On the one hand I think books like Oprah&#039;s &lt;em&gt;The Secret&lt;/em&gt; should be taken out and shot. They just tell people that visualizing success is going to make it happen. I also have a dark spot in my heart for economic self help books such as those real estate books that are just MLM schemes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other hand, I consider books such as Dale Carnegie&#039;s &lt;i&gt;How to win friends and influence people&lt;/i&gt; to be very useful. I remember reading a similar book by Barbara Walters about how to talk to anyone. I think these types of books are very useful because communicating effectively is one of those things that can be very hard to learn without some tips.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also put Caldini&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Influence&lt;/i&gt; in this category as well. It helped me explain some of the behaviors I was seeing around me from other people. After reading his explanation of how small rewards can permanently change people&#039;s behavior more effectively than large ones my eyes were opened to a great deal of phenomena that had been inexplicable to me previously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have mixed feelings about this topic. On the one hand I think books like Oprah's <em>The Secret</em> should be taken out and shot. They just tell people that visualizing success is going to make it happen. I also have a dark spot in my heart for economic self help books such as those real estate books that are just MLM schemes.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I consider books such as Dale Carnegie's <i>How to win friends and influence people</i> to be very useful. I remember reading a similar book by Barbara Walters about how to talk to anyone. I think these types of books are very useful because communicating effectively is one of those things that can be very hard to learn without some tips.</p>
<p>I also put Caldini's <i>Influence</i> in this category as well. It helped me explain some of the behaviors I was seeing around me from other people. After reading his explanation of how small rewards can permanently change people's behavior more effectively than large ones my eyes were opened to a great deal of phenomena that had been inexplicable to me previously.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Post! Thanks for inspiring me. I really enjoy the content of your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Post! Thanks for inspiring me. I really enjoy the content of your blog.</p>
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