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	<title>Comments on: Why Problem Solving Itself is a Puzzle, Even to Poincare and Picasso</title>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Replicating the Picassos - Am I cheating or am I below level?  I for the most part flunked writing in high school.  Years later I picked up a pen and started throwing words around.  I began writing by reading something and rewriting it.  What I noticed was that my sentences were very, very close to what I had been reading.  I tried to remedy this by whacking sentences or words off of several resources to make it look different. Really, I wasn’t trying to cheat and I wasn’t getting a grade or anything else by attempting to write. It occurred to me that in order to change words and thoughts around I would have to have a good vocabulary. This I did not have. A Professor once accused his students of cheating because their work resembled the Picassos of writing.  Was I cheating, or was I at step one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replicating the Picassos - Am I cheating or am I below level?  I for the most part flunked writing in high school.  Years later I picked up a pen and started throwing words around.  I began writing by reading something and rewriting it.  What I noticed was that my sentences were very, very close to what I had been reading.  I tried to remedy this by whacking sentences or words off of several resources to make it look different. Really, I wasn’t trying to cheat and I wasn’t getting a grade or anything else by attempting to write. It occurred to me that in order to change words and thoughts around I would have to have a good vocabulary. This I did not have. A Professor once accused his students of cheating because their work resembled the Picassos of writing.  Was I cheating, or was I at step one?</p>
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		<title>By: HoverHell</title>
		<link>http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/12/why-problem-solving-itself-is-puzzle.php/comment-page-1#comment-21005</link>
		<dc:creator>HoverHell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>* Sorry for my english, the topic is bit too hard for it..&lt;br /&gt;If I remembered my thought process correctly, I tried to solve this problem almost directly - by checking, which way I can set one rope more close to another. Like, getting it there with trird rope or pole, or making it swinging, or making it stay there somehow (like tying to some desk or, if weught is big enough, to it), ...or going further like, mentioned above, untying one rope from ceiling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* Sorry for my english, the topic is bit too hard for it..<br />If I remembered my thought process correctly, I tried to solve this problem almost directly - by checking, which way I can set one rope more close to another. Like, getting it there with trird rope or pole, or making it swinging, or making it stay there somehow (like tying to some desk or, if weught is big enough, to it), ...or going further like, mentioned above, untying one rope from ceiling.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</title>
		<link>http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/12/why-problem-solving-itself-is-puzzle.php/comment-page-1#comment-20985</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ste, point taken to a certain extent. Although I would still say it is possible to be more or less accurate about what is going on in our own minds.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Otherwise we&#039;re left in a relativist position where there is no objective truth, and my eyelids start to flutter closed as I feel a philosophical discussion coming on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ste, point taken to a certain extent. Although I would still say it is possible to be more or less accurate about what is going on in our own minds.</p>
<p>Otherwise we're left in a relativist position where there is no objective truth, and my eyelids start to flutter closed as I feel a philosophical discussion coming on!</p>
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		<title>By: Lana</title>
		<link>http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/12/why-problem-solving-itself-is-puzzle.php/comment-page-1#comment-20969</link>
		<dc:creator>Lana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool! I solved it without any clues.  Except that I set the cord swinging without the weight. Seemed like just using common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool! I solved it without any clues.  Except that I set the cord swinging without the weight. Seemed like just using common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: StefanoBerta</title>
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		<dc:creator>StefanoBerta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice series of posts!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;The problem is that these reports were usually made many years after the original thought processes. Picasso may simply have forgotten what prompted him to create the first ever cubist painting &#039;Les Demoiselles d&#039;Avignon&#039; (detail above). Perhaps if we&#039;d asked him exactly what was going through his mind right after he painted it, the answer would have been more &lt;b&gt;accurate&lt;/b&gt;.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You say accurate, i would just say different.&lt;br /&gt;I think the problem is that we look at the memory as a storage, fixed in our mind forever so that the difficulties of remembering come from access to memory and not from the storage itself.&lt;br /&gt;I would say there&#039;s no storage at all, and there&#039;s no homunculus reading an index of what is stored. Better, what we do is always to rebuild, to reinvent. And what gives us an illusion of a memory as a hardware is just our powerful brain, that support big mental models with which we can look far in the past or in the future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&#039;t know if you get the point i&#039;m trying to suggest, I cannot express myself well in english, and these are not simple topics!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, if you&#039;re interested, I suggest you to read &quot;Complexity of the Self: A Developmental Approach to Psychopathology and Therapy&quot; by Vittorio Guidano. You can easyly find it for few dollars on amazon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice series of posts!</p>
<p>"The problem is that these reports were usually made many years after the original thought processes. Picasso may simply have forgotten what prompted him to create the first ever cubist painting 'Les Demoiselles d'Avignon' (detail above). Perhaps if we'd asked him exactly what was going through his mind right after he painted it, the answer would have been more <b>accurate</b>."</p>
<p>You say accurate, i would just say different.<br />I think the problem is that we look at the memory as a storage, fixed in our mind forever so that the difficulties of remembering come from access to memory and not from the storage itself.<br />I would say there's no storage at all, and there's no homunculus reading an index of what is stored. Better, what we do is always to rebuild, to reinvent. And what gives us an illusion of a memory as a hardware is just our powerful brain, that support big mental models with which we can look far in the past or in the future.</p>
<p>I don't know if you get the point i'm trying to suggest, I cannot express myself well in english, and these are not simple topics!</p>
<p>Anyway, if you're interested, I suggest you to read "Complexity of the Self: A Developmental Approach to Psychopathology and Therapy" by Vittorio Guidano. You can easyly find it for few dollars on amazon.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry jmccance, that one was disallowed!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Elsa, well done! Of course it might have been more tricky if you&#039;d had Professor Maier wandering around the room staring at you while you tried to figure it out!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Will, great questions - all of which I now want to know the answer to!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry jmccance, that one was disallowed!</p>
<p>Elsa, well done! Of course it might have been more tricky if you'd had Professor Maier wandering around the room staring at you while you tried to figure it out!</p>
<p>Will, great questions - all of which I now want to know the answer to!</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truthfully, I don&#039;t think I &quot;solved&quot; it so much as I &quot;remembered&quot; reading this in a class from years ago - although I didn&#039;t recognize that I knew the study until after I&#039;d read the whole article. This raises several interesting questions for me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, is there a good reason why the details of problem-solving are inaccessible to us? Perhaps for similar reason that most of our sensory input actually goes (consciously) unnoticed - that is to say, to keep track of the problem-solving process would be far too much information for us to reasonably handle?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, are people who are really good at problem-solving actually more clever, or simply better at noticing and/or retaining clues? I think about TV character McGuyver - what kind of education must he have had?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Patients with neurological disorders or specific brain traumas sometimes have access to memories that have been long forgotten, and in compelling detail (cf for example, Dr. Sacks&#039; &lt;i&gt;The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat&lt;/i&gt;). I wonder if those in similar circumstances might have better insight into how they solve problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truthfully, I don't think I "solved" it so much as I "remembered" reading this in a class from years ago - although I didn't recognize that I knew the study until after I'd read the whole article. This raises several interesting questions for me.</p>
<p>First, is there a good reason why the details of problem-solving are inaccessible to us? Perhaps for similar reason that most of our sensory input actually goes (consciously) unnoticed - that is to say, to keep track of the problem-solving process would be far too much information for us to reasonably handle?</p>
<p>Second, are people who are really good at problem-solving actually more clever, or simply better at noticing and/or retaining clues? I think about TV character McGuyver - what kind of education must he have had?</p>
<p>Patients with neurological disorders or specific brain traumas sometimes have access to memories that have been long forgotten, and in compelling detail (cf for example, Dr. Sacks' <i>The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat</i>). I wonder if those in similar circumstances might have better insight into how they solve problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Sat Garcia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sat Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate to toot my own horn (alright, alright... I love doing it!) but I came up with that basic idea even before I saw what the props were. Maybe I played with ropes too much as a kid...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to toot my own horn (alright, alright... I love doing it!) but I came up with that basic idea even before I saw what the props were. Maybe I played with ropes too much as a kid...</p>
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		<title>By: jmccance</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmccance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The weight-swinging method actually crossed my mind, but didn&#039;t strike me as elegant enough. The solution I decided on before scrolling down may have been disallowed: untying one rope from the ceiling, tying the ends together, and then tie the rope back to the ceiling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The weight-swinging method actually crossed my mind, but didn't strike me as elegant enough. The solution I decided on before scrolling down may have been disallowed: untying one rope from the ceiling, tying the ends together, and then tie the rope back to the ceiling.</p>
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