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		<title>By: Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</title>
		<link>http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/03/memories-manipulated-after-event.php/comment-page-1#comment-21111</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elsinore, I&#039;d suggest looking up the original study and doing a little background reading...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elsinore, I'd suggest looking up the original study and doing a little background reading...</p>
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		<title>By: Elsinore</title>
		<link>http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/03/memories-manipulated-after-event.php/comment-page-1#comment-21102</link>
		<dc:creator>Elsinore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am wanting to repilicate this experiment and I have a couple of questions.  Do we know for sure how memories are stored?  Are they stored chemically?  Was there really any broken glass in the film?  Do we know if the subjects being in a previous car accident had any effect on their suggested times?  Sorry, I know that&#039;s alot of questions but this is the only website that I have found that I could get some answers from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wanting to repilicate this experiment and I have a couple of questions.  Do we know for sure how memories are stored?  Are they stored chemically?  Was there really any broken glass in the film?  Do we know if the subjects being in a previous car accident had any effect on their suggested times?  Sorry, I know that's alot of questions but this is the only website that I have found that I could get some answers from.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</title>
		<link>http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/03/memories-manipulated-after-event.php/comment-page-1#comment-21066</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henwelder, you&#039;re welcome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henwelder, you're welcome!</p>
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		<title>By: Henwelder</title>
		<link>http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/03/memories-manipulated-after-event.php/comment-page-1#comment-21026</link>
		<dc:creator>Henwelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant is all i can muster, so simple yet so ingenious, it has made me look at my own memories in a new light. Thanks so much Jeremy for well written uncomplicated synopsis on very complex issues. It really helps a moron such as myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant is all i can muster, so simple yet so ingenious, it has made me look at my own memories in a new light. Thanks so much Jeremy for well written uncomplicated synopsis on very complex issues. It really helps a moron such as myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</title>
		<link>http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/03/memories-manipulated-after-event.php/comment-page-1#comment-20407</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lahylin, nothing wrong with starting a debate! Thanks for your clarification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lahylin, nothing wrong with starting a debate! Thanks for your clarification.</p>
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		<title>By: Lahylin</title>
		<link>http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/03/memories-manipulated-after-event.php/comment-page-1#comment-20404</link>
		<dc:creator>Lahylin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mean to be political at all. I&#039;m only mentioning this because you referred to recovered memories from sexual abuse and Loftus is known for her involvment in courts on the side of people accused of sexual abuse (which per se is ok to me, now if the main line of defense is to attack the value of the victim&#039;s memory, well..). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But her methodology has been criticized by researchers working in the field of abuse, trauma and memory. Again:&lt;br /&gt;http://www.jimhopper.com/memory/#el (this is about research, not the court affairs as such)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m not entirely discarding her work, I&#039;m pointing out how controversial she has become indeed. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As you put it, those questions about recovered memories can have an enormous impact, on people who have been falsely accused surely, but also actual victims. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks big part to Loftus and the FMSF, recovered memories are nowadays seen as suspect.  It&#039;s like saying the Vietnam war didn&#039;t happen to a veteran with PTSD and delayed recall. It&#039;s interesting the controversy about &#039;altered memories&#039; has taken such proportions in sexual abuse cases but not war victims for instance. It&#039;s something I&#039;m wondering about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope I&#039;m clearer, I don&#039;t mean to start a debate as such here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't mean to be political at all. I'm only mentioning this because you referred to recovered memories from sexual abuse and Loftus is known for her involvment in courts on the side of people accused of sexual abuse (which per se is ok to me, now if the main line of defense is to attack the value of the victim's memory, well..). </p>
<p>But her methodology has been criticized by researchers working in the field of abuse, trauma and memory. Again:<br /><a href="http://www.jimhopper.com/memory/#el" rel="nofollow">http://www.jimhopper.com/memory/#el</a> (this is about research, not the court affairs as such)</p>
<p>I'm not entirely discarding her work, I'm pointing out how controversial she has become indeed. </p>
<p>As you put it, those questions about recovered memories can have an enormous impact, on people who have been falsely accused surely, but also actual victims. </p>
<p>Thanks big part to Loftus and the FMSF, recovered memories are nowadays seen as suspect.  It's like saying the Vietnam war didn't happen to a veteran with PTSD and delayed recall. It's interesting the controversy about 'altered memories' has taken such proportions in sexual abuse cases but not war victims for instance. It's something I'm wondering about.</p>
<p>I hope I'm clearer, I don't mean to start a debate as such here!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lahylin, I can sympathise with your viewpoint but I definitely can&#039;t agree that Loftus&#039; &#039;agenda&#039; is to &quot;diminish the value of victims&#039; testimony in court&quot;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Placing this study in a political context does a disservice to what is a great piece of research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lahylin, I can sympathise with your viewpoint but I definitely can't agree that Loftus' 'agenda' is to "diminish the value of victims' testimony in court". </p>
<p>Placing this study in a political context does a disservice to what is a great piece of research.</p>
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		<title>By: Lahylin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lahylin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem regarding recovered memories from abuse (that&#039;s what Loftus is after) is that you cannot repeat actual trauma in experiments, that would be highly unethical indeed. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The big problem about the &quot;false memory syndrom&quot; controversy is that it harms people who are actually suffering from PTSD, amnesia and delayed recall. And amnesia is a fact beyond dispute, to quote from:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jimhopper.com/memory&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jimhopper.com/memory&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;who also looks at studies with victims experiencing delayed recalls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Certainly memories are not perfect and can be suggested (that&#039;s the basis of brainwashing: isolation, emotion, repetition). But Loftus&#039; agenda is quite different. It is to diminish the value of victims&#039; testimony in court. And society is very happy to comfort themselves with studies like Loftus&#039;, because society doesn&#039;t want to hear about child abuse. And it&#039;s coming out like that really. It&#039;s fine by me to investigate the how and why of false accusations of abuse. But I&#039;m worried that the &#039;false memory syndrom&#039; is transforming into some kind of heavy social denial.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See Post-Traumatic Gazette, 4: False Memory Syndrome vs. Lying Perpetrator Syndrome: The Big Lie, by P. Mason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem regarding recovered memories from abuse (that's what Loftus is after) is that you cannot repeat actual trauma in experiments, that would be highly unethical indeed. </p>
<p>The big problem about the "false memory syndrom" controversy is that it harms people who are actually suffering from PTSD, amnesia and delayed recall. And amnesia is a fact beyond dispute, to quote from:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jimhopper.com/memory" rel="nofollow">http://www.jimhopper.com/memory</a></p>
<p>who also looks at studies with victims experiencing delayed recalls.</p>
<p>Certainly memories are not perfect and can be suggested (that's the basis of brainwashing: isolation, emotion, repetition). But Loftus' agenda is quite different. It is to diminish the value of victims' testimony in court. And society is very happy to comfort themselves with studies like Loftus', because society doesn't want to hear about child abuse. And it's coming out like that really. It's fine by me to investigate the how and why of false accusations of abuse. But I'm worried that the 'false memory syndrom' is transforming into some kind of heavy social denial.</p>
<p>See Post-Traumatic Gazette, 4: False Memory Syndrome vs. Lying Perpetrator Syndrome: The Big Lie, by P. Mason</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</title>
		<link>http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/03/memories-manipulated-after-event.php/comment-page-1#comment-19753</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Chris, I appreciate that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chris, I appreciate that.</p>
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		<title>By: groupThink</title>
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		<dc:creator>groupThink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fascinating as have all your post on the top 10 studies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fascinating as have all your post on the top 10 studies.</p>
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