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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.spring.org.uk/2005/06/tom-cruise-exposes-psychology-as-fraudhtm.php/comment-page-1#comment-19557</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee whiz TomKat I guess my 4 years of Psych school should go down the old toilet since you say it is a krock, hey have you taken a look at your scientology i was reading up on it and seems to me that it is all about mind and body and the way to a better self.  I don&#039;t know I feel like I&#039;ve seen that somewhere in my psy books, oh I know that is the whole freakin point of psychology!  get over yourself, and at least get a degree in something before you blow it off!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee whiz TomKat I guess my 4 years of Psych school should go down the old toilet since you say it is a krock, hey have you taken a look at your scientology i was reading up on it and seems to me that it is all about mind and body and the way to a better self.  I don't know I feel like I've seen that somewhere in my psy books, oh I know that is the whole freakin point of psychology!  get over yourself, and at least get a degree in something before you blow it off!!!</p>
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		<title>By: breakerslion</title>
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		<dc:creator>breakerslion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, let&#039;s see if I&#039;ve got this. Tom Cruise believes in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.xenu.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this crap&lt;/a&gt; but does not believe in psychology. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Does he think people are lying to him when they point and say &quot;Oh look, there&#039;s a Psycologist!&quot;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Is this a preemptive manuever to discredit those that would identify Scientologists as &quot;loony&quot; in a more exact and authoritative way than the rest of us?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. As in all cults, it seems the members are objecting to what they have been &lt;i&gt;told&lt;/i&gt; by their handlers about psychology, and not the broader reality. Sorry, no joke for that one excepting possibly &quot;anonymous&quot; himself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well done by the way. Worthy of &quot;The Onion&quot;. That &quot;creep&quot; comment was no doubt projection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, let's see if I've got this. Tom Cruise believes in <a href="http://www.xenu.net/" rel="nofollow">this crap</a> but does not believe in psychology. </p>
<p>1. Does he think people are lying to him when they point and say "Oh look, there's a Psycologist!"?</p>
<p>2. Is this a preemptive manuever to discredit those that would identify Scientologists as "loony" in a more exact and authoritative way than the rest of us?</p>
<p>3. As in all cults, it seems the members are objecting to what they have been <i>told</i> by their handlers about psychology, and not the broader reality. Sorry, no joke for that one excepting possibly "anonymous" himself.</p>
<p>Well done by the way. Worthy of "The Onion". That "creep" comment was no doubt projection.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Tom - sorry &#039;anonymous&#039; - thanks for your kind words and for taking the time out of your busy acting schedule to reply to the thousands of people shamelessly sniping at your gnomic comments on psychiatry and psychology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would recommend that rather than dealing with all the comments yourself, you should hire a team of people to scour the web and clear up this misunderstanding which seems to have arisen between you and...well...the population of the Earth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That way you&#039;ll be able to further reinforce your chronic disconnection from reality and gargantuan sense of humour failure to as many people as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Tom - sorry 'anonymous' - thanks for your kind words and for taking the time out of your busy acting schedule to reply to the thousands of people shamelessly sniping at your gnomic comments on psychiatry and psychology.</p>
<p>I would recommend that rather than dealing with all the comments yourself, you should hire a team of people to scour the web and clear up this misunderstanding which seems to have arisen between you and...well...the population of the Earth.</p>
<p>That way you'll be able to further reinforce your chronic disconnection from reality and gargantuan sense of humour failure to as many people as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2005 03:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truely a lame, sad and above all, immature original post.  It is clear as day that the author totally missed the point of Tom&#039;s message and has gone out of his way to join the bandwagon in exagerrating (more like lying about) Tom&#039;s claims to make it like Tom was talking about medicine and science in general.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m sure Tom knew he would not destroy psychiatry and psychology in one fell swoop in a national morning talk show, but he did get a message out, despite the numerous mischaracterizations and what have you, such as demonstrated by the creep who wrote the &quot;funny&quot; little article.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In regards to the actual issue and the following comments (on this page), obviously the APA does feel threatened by Tom&#039;s comments, or at least feel that he is causing their patients/consumers harm.  I doubt they are scared they will go out of business but they are a little concerned at least.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a difference between psychiatry and psychology.  Scientology and Hubbard are against both.  The reasons for this are mostly from a secular viewpoint.  There are reasons that they have these views in terms of psychiatry and psychology going against their religious beliefs, but these secular beliefs are the same ones held by others, whether of a religious affiliation or not, that are against psychiatry/psychology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I would say they have put more emphasis on their anti-psychiatry views because psychiatry is where most of the abuse happens.  Here you have the drugs, electric shock, lobotomies, involuntary committment, etc.  Their views on psychology stem from the ideas psychologists/counselors/psychoanalysts put in people&#039;s heads, including the demoralization as in that values determination program (I can&#039;t remember the exact name for it, sorry) they have osme kids do in school.  There is also the factor of patient rape by the doctors but that is present in psychiatry as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But there is a difference between the two, but Scientologists are against both as they both operate on similar principles and share a lot in common.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In regards to the objectivity of the DSM, this goes back to the whole theory behind mental illnesses.  And do any of you know exactly how they add a mental illness label to the DSM.  Hint, hint, it involves voting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truely a lame, sad and above all, immature original post.  It is clear as day that the author totally missed the point of Tom's message and has gone out of his way to join the bandwagon in exagerrating (more like lying about) Tom's claims to make it like Tom was talking about medicine and science in general.</p>
<p>I'm sure Tom knew he would not destroy psychiatry and psychology in one fell swoop in a national morning talk show, but he did get a message out, despite the numerous mischaracterizations and what have you, such as demonstrated by the creep who wrote the "funny" little article.</p>
<p>In regards to the actual issue and the following comments (on this page), obviously the APA does feel threatened by Tom's comments, or at least feel that he is causing their patients/consumers harm.  I doubt they are scared they will go out of business but they are a little concerned at least.</p>
<p>There is a difference between psychiatry and psychology.  Scientology and Hubbard are against both.  The reasons for this are mostly from a secular viewpoint.  There are reasons that they have these views in terms of psychiatry and psychology going against their religious beliefs, but these secular beliefs are the same ones held by others, whether of a religious affiliation or not, that are against psychiatry/psychology.</p>
<p>But I would say they have put more emphasis on their anti-psychiatry views because psychiatry is where most of the abuse happens.  Here you have the drugs, electric shock, lobotomies, involuntary committment, etc.  Their views on psychology stem from the ideas psychologists/counselors/psychoanalysts put in people's heads, including the demoralization as in that values determination program (I can't remember the exact name for it, sorry) they have osme kids do in school.  There is also the factor of patient rape by the doctors but that is present in psychiatry as well.</p>
<p>But there is a difference between the two, but Scientologists are against both as they both operate on similar principles and share a lot in common.</p>
<p>In regards to the objectivity of the DSM, this goes back to the whole theory behind mental illnesses.  And do any of you know exactly how they add a mental illness label to the DSM.  Hint, hint, it involves voting.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 03:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder how much of a threat tom cruise could be to exposing psychiatry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder how much of a threat tom cruise could be to exposing psychiatry?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</title>
		<link>http://www.spring.org.uk/2005/06/tom-cruise-exposes-psychology-as-fraudhtm.php/comment-page-1#comment-19500</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My view on the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) is pretty well summed up in this post on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spring.org.uk/2005/07/brian-blackwell-and-narcissistic.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brian Blackwell&lt;/a&gt; and Narcissistic Personality Disorder. In addition, Cat makes a great related point in the comments that is particularly relevant here in the UK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My view on the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) is pretty well summed up in this post on <a href="http://www.spring.org.uk/2005/07/brian-blackwell-and-narcissistic.htm" rel="nofollow">Brian Blackwell</a> and Narcissistic Personality Disorder. In addition, Cat makes a great related point in the comments that is particularly relevant here in the UK.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So uh, do you think there is objectivity behind the DSM?  I think it&#039;s fine if psychology as a profession helps people through the human condition, but to condemm people with DSM labels that are stigmatizing, is too much. I think the challenge is distiguish yourselves from the DSM or you proffesion will extinguish itself. Ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So uh, do you think there is objectivity behind the DSM?  I think it's fine if psychology as a profession helps people through the human condition, but to condemm people with DSM labels that are stigmatizing, is too much. I think the challenge is distiguish yourselves from the DSM or you proffesion will extinguish itself. Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</title>
		<link>http://www.spring.org.uk/2005/06/tom-cruise-exposes-psychology-as-fraudhtm.php/comment-page-1#comment-19497</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy (PsyBlog author)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gary, you&#039;re right in the sense that he mostly seems to be going after psychiatry. Still, here&#039;s what he actually said:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Before I was a Scientologist, I never agreed with psychiatry...and when I started studying the history of psychiatry, I understood more and more why I didn&#039;t believe in psychology. ... And I know that psychiatry is a pseudo science.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fact that he said that he didn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;believe in psychology&lt;/i&gt; was exactly the part that made me laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gary, you're right in the sense that he mostly seems to be going after psychiatry. Still, here's what he actually said:</p>
<p>"Before I was a Scientologist, I never agreed with psychiatry...and when I started studying the history of psychiatry, I understood more and more why I didn't believe in psychology. ... And I know that psychiatry is a pseudo science."</p>
<p>The fact that he said that he didn't <i>believe in psychology</i> was exactly the part that made me laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptPsych</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaptPsych</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fail to see why you can&#039;t distinguish between psychology and psychiatry.  I would prefer you speaking about scientology&#039;s anti-psychiatry crusade.  I recognize they are lumping many clinical health workers together, (and that they should feel threatened by much in psychology) but prefer to distinguish psychological science from clinical work. Tom Cruise probably doesn&#039;t know the differentce, but he was referring to the mental health establishment and not the field of psychology as your title implies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fail to see why you can't distinguish between psychology and psychiatry.  I would prefer you speaking about scientology's anti-psychiatry crusade.  I recognize they are lumping many clinical health workers together, (and that they should feel threatened by much in psychology) but prefer to distinguish psychological science from clinical work. Tom Cruise probably doesn't know the differentce, but he was referring to the mental health establishment and not the field of psychology as your title implies.</p>
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		<title>By: sb</title>
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		<dc:creator>sb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bummer! I was just getting started as well :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bummer! I was just getting started as well :-(</p>
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